EPISODE // LESLIE

A deeply personal conversation with Leslie, who has lived in the South, in the Midwest, and in the Northeast about the ways skin color affects how he is perceived by white people everyday and how he is constantly balancing their possible thoughts with his actions and words.    

At its core, this is a Black man and a white woman talking about living Black in America.  We discuss what it's like for Leslie to be constantly on guard for what white people will think about him or do to him based solely on his skin.   In the aftermath of the murders of George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, and Ahmaud Arbery, we dive into the constant mental struggle and trauma of living Black in America, what that feels like in real life scenarios, and the post traumatic stress that has been passed on through generations and continues to be with every murder and harassment of a Black person.

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This episode was recorded May 30, 2020.